Posts by mrs rocky2

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"Spiritism" has Rapidly Spread in JW Congregations

by metatron in

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sister k, like countless other witness sisters, has a number of vague, ill-defined symptoms that drag her down physically.. her md can't find much specific that's wrong - so she seeks help from an alternative healer - who uses "healing crystals",.

"flower essences", "rebalancing energy meridians" and the like.

she seems to benefit from this - and the healer is also.

mrs rocky2

My sister lived in the Santa Barbara area in the mid-70's. The congregation was big into iridology. The iridologist could tell you what organ of your body was dysfunctional based on your iris. My sister's roommate had rheumatoid arthritis, she was only 26. The iridologist had her on a special diet and she had to do "cleansing enemas" several times a week. It seemed very extreme to me.

As for muscle testing, you can also muscle test emotions. A mental health professional I know uses muscle testing to make her patients aware of negative thinking/emotions. BTW, she is also a shaman (no bone in the nose, sorry). She doesn't tell her patients about the shaman thing since a lot of folks would be offended.

Anyway, it is all so interesting, this mind/body connection and the high incidence of mystery illnesses amongst the ranks of JWs - fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and so forth. I say it's from too much stress! - just my two bits worth....

Mrs R

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Barb Anderson & Linda Jahn interviewed on Mark Furman Show, Spokane, WA

by AndersonsInfo in

thought you'd like to know that today at 11 am pacific standard time, which was 1 pm tennessee time, i was interviewed for an entire hour by mark furman on 1510 kga, the big talker show, originating in spokane, wa, population 250,000. former jw, linda jahn, was interviewed from 12:00 to 1 pm.

all this attention to our cause originated from the disfellowshipping and shunning of joel jahn in davenport, wa, a few months back.

at that time joel wrote a letter to the local davenport newspaper explaining the wt disfellowshipping policy used against him because he spoke out against the religion's child abuse policies.

mrs rocky2

I'll type as fast as I can - I've never had to listen to 3 hours of medical dictation. This should be interesting! Linda

bttt

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I've been debating on whether or not to share this...but here goes

by findingmyway in

for those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.

i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.

yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.

mrs rocky2

(((hugs))) you have so much self-control! I felt my heart being ripped from my chest! I had to remind myself that my own parents have told my daughters they shouldn't talk to us and that my brother-in-law and his wife consider us 'dead.' Those arrogant so-and-so's! Taking advantage of a young person by showering him with praise. What child doesn't like being complimented? Shame on them! Orphan, pshaw! how presumptuous! how pharisee like!

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A trip home

by Krisiva10 in

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i just got back from a trip to my home town bakersfield, ca.

i spent most of my time with my mother and grandmother who are both still witnesses.

my mom knows i pry won't be going back to the meetings but i get this feeling like she wants to ask me about it.

mrs rocky2

My daughters have gone through just what you are experiencing when they visit my parents. My dad can't talk about anything but his JW activities. If he does talk about anything else, it's to criticize worldly people. He's gotten a little more bold about his displeasure of a college education and unfortunately has alienated his oldest granddaughter (who has since finished her 4-yr college degree). The youngest will be visiting right before Thanksgiving. She is a senior at a 4-yr college and has plans to go on to a PhD/MD program. It is so difficult to put up with their subtle propaganda but the girls love g'ma so much and can't imagine sawing her off just because they disagree with JW teachings, especially since g'ma is up in years and won't be around for too much longer (she's 81).

You mention writing a book - try journaling, even if you don't plan to publish. Write your thoughts and feelings down. It might help you sort out the emotional stress and get it out of your head. Just a thought. - Mrs Rocky

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My daughter didn't speak to me

by MsMcDucket in

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as you know, my twin daughters, recently got baptised.

they are now shunning me.

i hadn't seen them in person for about 3 weeks.

mrs rocky2

I can't think of strong enough words to say how horrible it feels to have immediate family, flesh and blood, reject you for religion. In my case, the shunning is reverses - my parents shunning me.

Here's something to keep in mind - the written guidelines from the WT do not tell JW family members to be so severe in their association when living in the same household. Although WT rules indicate that you are no longer their 'spiritual' head, you are still their parent. They should show proper respect to you. It might not hurt to place copies of WT guidelines on how to treat DF'd family members conspicuously around your home, highlighting appropriate points. Always let them know that you have not closed the door of your heart to them. Your daughters are only doing what they have been told is the right thing to do to make you come grovelling back to the WT. It is an emotional/psychological ploy.

It breaks my heart to know that your children are treating you so poorly.

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MAJOR SHUNNING ARTICLE SPOKESMAN REVIEW WASHINGTON

by DannyHaszard in

monday thoughts

the spokesman review, wa - 45 minutes ago .

... before getting to the sports section, i read every word of virginia de leon's piece about disfellowshipped jehovah's witnesses cut off by faith, and i'm ...

mrs rocky2

Marilyn,

My sis and her husband are inactive. In fact, when she heard that Joel was DF'd after being inactive for so many years, she knew something was 'fishy.' You don't get DF'd for being inactive. I think she was so afraid when I told her that we had spoken about our unhappiness with WT's child molestation reporting policy to only one person and that is why Joel was DF'd.

The girls are doing great. Our oldest works for UW. She received her BA in June. The youngest is a senior at WSU. Both would like to go on to graduate school. Both girls still visit their grandmothers. G'pa is not as popular because he got too pushy with our oldest. The youngest will be spending a few days with my parents in November, right before Thanksgiving. My parents have tol the youngest that she shouldn't talk to her dad now that he is DF'd. She just brushes the comments off and does what she wants to do. She is so patient with them and puts up with my dad's not-so-subtle witnessing. I think he is afraid that, if he pushes too hard, he'll lose her too, so he tends to behave himself better. My girls are the only grandchildren they have. I don't think he's willing to sacrifice that much. But we'll see! you know how stubborn he is!

Linda

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Barb Anderson & Linda Jahn interviewed on Mark Furman Show, Spokane, WA

by AndersonsInfo in

thought you'd like to know that today at 11 am pacific standard time, which was 1 pm tennessee time, i was interviewed for an entire hour by mark furman on 1510 kga, the big talker show, originating in spokane, wa, population 250,000. former jw, linda jahn, was interviewed from 12:00 to 1 pm.

all this attention to our cause originated from the disfellowshipping and shunning of joel jahn in davenport, wa, a few months back.

at that time joel wrote a letter to the local davenport newspaper explaining the wt disfellowshipping policy used against him because he spoke out against the religion's child abuse policies.

mrs rocky2

Barbara, thank you for the compliment. That interview was probably one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. We received the call from the show's producer around 8:30am asking if I could be available for the 10am show. I still didn't have any caffeine in my body when I agreed to participate! I had no idea what Mark Fuhrman was going to ask me. I've heard his show before and know that he is not one to "beat around the bush." One of my xJW friends called last night and told me that 'all those years in the Ministry School finally paid off!' It would have been more difficult had Joelnot been in the room with me. And the many conversations we've had with you, Barbara, helped a lot. I missed your part of the show because I had to go to work. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a transcript.

We had hoped that if we could help just one person, whether that be someone leaving WT or opening the eyes of the public, then we have accomplished something good with this publicity. Richard Rawe told us that he received a call from a woman who had been studying with JWs for four months. She asked if the shunning and child molestation policy was local to Davenport. When she learned that this is a worldwide issue, she told Richard she was going to tell the JWs not to come back, she would not be studying with them anymore.

The last time Joel's brother spoke with him, he asked Joel if one person could make a change. What do you think? 1 + 1 + 1 + 1...Perhaps he was just a little naive.

Linda

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MAJOR SHUNNING ARTICLE SPOKESMAN REVIEW WASHINGTON

by DannyHaszard in

monday thoughts

the spokesman review, wa - 45 minutes ago .

... before getting to the sports section, i read every word of virginia de leon's piece about disfellowshipped jehovah's witnesses cut off by faith, and i'm ...

mrs rocky2

Hi Marilyn - haven't been able to get online since the article hit the newstand - phone's been pretty busy!

Someone has sent a copy of the paper to my dad. He cold turkey stopped talking to me in June. What's really funny to me is that they (mom and dad) were over here visiting Memorial Day weekend. We had a wonderful visit, probably the best we've had in years. Joel was DF'd the following week. Nothing in our lives had changed in those 8 days, except for the announcement that Joel had been DF'd. We didn't know the elders were working on DFing him. It had been over a month since they PO had called. Dad has not responded to my e-mails. Mom has called me at work a few times but I'm sure that will stop once they see the newspaper. My sis hasn't called or IM'd or e-mailed since the first part of July.

As for whether I am DF'd or not, as far as I know, nothing has been announced at the KH. This should do it though, especially since the interview on the radio with Mark Fuhrman yesterday. But I don't expect I'll find out about it directly. The elders have never told Joel that he was DF'd - no letter, no phone call. My sis is the one who called and told me - the good old JW gossip grapevine. Wonders never cease!

Linda

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did this ever happen to you?

by joanne_ in

just wondering if this happened to any of you.

did you ever go to the service group and be assigned to the different car groups.....and then....the sister that is assigned to go with you...decline and say...'i am just going by myself today and do my return vistits by myself'..... damn, i should have complained about that one!

it was very rude!

mrs rocky2

from Mrs Rocky - Tyrone, are you counting time?

from Mr Rocky - "Tyrone, are your eyes brown? because you are fullofsh*t!"

BTW - we were front page news of the Spokane Spokesman Review for being disfellowshipped for pointing out the danger of Watchtower's policy on reporting child molestation/sexual abuse of children. Do you really think a loving God would turn his back on someone for wanting to protect innocent children? This is not a local issue - this is a worldwide issue. We have waited for Jehovah to fix it - apparently we are part of his answer to fixing the problem. "Therefore, if one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.'" - James 4:17 Protecting pedophiles from prosecution by law is turning a blind eye to what is right. This policy must be changed to protect children. If I do not speak publicly while this policy is allowed to continued, then I have sinned. - Respectfully, Mrs. Rocky

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MAJOR SHUNNING ARTICLE SPOKESMAN REVIEW WASHINGTON

by DannyHaszard in

monday thoughts

the spokesman review, wa - 45 minutes ago .

... before getting to the sports section, i read every word of virginia de leon's piece about disfellowshipped jehovah's witnesses cut off by faith, and i'm ...

mrs rocky2

If anyone would like to contact the Davenport Congregation elders, I'm sure I can provide addresses - just PM me (this is a very, very, very small town - addresses are easy to come by). Mrs Rocky2